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  • Beware of this seller name marketclear / marketclear 1 - 96529318

    Good Day to all watch lovers, im starting this new thread to pre-warn buyers/interested buyers of this seller nick ( Marketclear/Marketclear1 ) which is still currently active in this forum selling couple of watches.

    I had brought a Pam O series from this bugger abt 9 mths ago at a price of 5.6k, before closing the deal we exchange Q&A and was told he was the first owner of the mentioned watch that come with complete set but missing of warranty card. as the mentioned Pam was brought overseas it also came with receipt from watches of Switzerland so I arrange a meet up with him to close the deal. when the day arrived, we and my friend check the watch and papers/boxes etc as this is the first time im buying a time piece with zero experience, check the watch and true enough was it almost brand new condition and we closed the deal. As im someone that rather bo chap, the watch soon got scratches and during dec, I accompany my friend to JW to collect his watch and at the same time I wanted JW to access the damage of the watch for polishing quotation, im shocked to hear from him that my watch might be a Fake watch but he cant confirmed at the spot so he requested me to bring along all the boxes/receipt etc so as to have a confirmation. went down the next day with everything and let JW to have a detail check from cert,boxes to the watch and found out that its all FAKE. JW even show me the time piece and cert from his shop to highlight the difference between the 2. Was very upset regarding the result but at the same time thinking that at least I know the Pam im wearing daily is a Fake watch... Called my friend and seek his assistance to locate the seller as I happen to have save his contact, manage to locate the bugger as he is still selling couple of watches in the forum. my friend posed as an interested buyer for 1 of his time piece and arrange a meet up with him. time and locate is fixed and we proceed down without delay. Rch the location and I parked my car in the carpark and advised my friends to meet him first and I will show up at a later time to settle the issue with him. after abt 15mins I went up to look for them and the seller first look at me and he can remember me. I just sat down and informed him that this meet up was made up so that I can meet him face to face to settle the Fake watch which he sold to me. proceed to show his the receipt from JW stating watch is a FAKE and requested him to refund me the 5.6k which I had paid for the watch inorder to settle this matter peacefully. To my surprised he told me he brought this watch from a seller for just 1 mth and he sold it to me and he didn't know its a fake watch. We rebutted that its not wat he told us when we first met, he can still say is it, did I say that I cant remember. he keep saying that he will need to get back his money from the seller before he can pay me back which I dun agreed to that as this is 2 different issue. End up had to called the police to make a report of this bugger. He even say JW receipt is not from maker so it can be fake or I swopped the watch which he sold to me. This made me even mad as who will be so free to create this issue with so many troubles. In the end I sent in to Pam at ION to ask for servicing of the watch, few days later received email and ph call from pam that the watch I sent in is FAKE. So to me this bugger is a scammer who sold FAKE watch.

    Bugger if you are reading this thread, my advised to you is to refund me the money and take back your FAKE watch... IF not I will posed your photo in the internet and carry out official report follow by law suit to get back my money... I will make sure all your info will be posted together with your photos... EMAIL.jpg

  • #2
    these 2 nicks are registered here but never posted a PAM zero for sale here, so i assume you bought this from another forum?

    due to the nature of the contents, we require a police report (with your personal details blackout) to be posted here before the thread stays. we normally give 24hours but if you need more time, let us know.
    The answer to all your questions are in the forum guidelines

    SWX is a homage free forum

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    • #3
      quote bumblebee83.....Bro I think before you wanna continue selling your watch in the forum, pls refund me the 5.6k for the FAKE PAM111 you sold to me. I had sent them in to Panerai at Ion and had them confirmed the watch you sold me was a FAKE watch... and before things go out of hand with your pic in the internet...unquote bumblebee83

      We would like to seek some clarification. so you bought 2 Panerai's from this seller? A PAM111 & a PAM0?
      The answer to all your questions are in the forum guidelines

      SWX is a homage free forum

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      • #4
        let us summarise what we have gathered here 5 days to christmas on a beautiful sat morning about your account bumblebee83

        1) you created an ID bumblebee83 yesterday
        2) you made 14 post.
        3) all 14 post were, well to claim that a gentleman sold you a fake
        4) you claim to have been sold a fake pam0 in this post here at SWX
        5) you claim to have been sold a fake pam111 in another post here at SWX
        6) there have been no records of a pam0 or pam111 offered here at SWX by this seller, so you bought it from another forum from this seller.
        7) you made a police report

        did we miss out anything?

        we do not wish to be insensitive to your story but this post (and the other 13) will be removed unless we see a police report. help us help you. we require a police report

        disclaimer: swx is not involved in any form of retailing of timepieces of any sort and we are not acquainted with either of the parties involve here (aka bumblebee83/marketcler/marketclear1).
        The answer to all your questions are in the forum guidelines

        SWX is a homage free forum

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        • #5
          Hi Admin, I think Bumblebee83 bought a Pam O series, not Pam 000...

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          • #6
            arh...our bad
            The answer to all your questions are in the forum guidelines

            SWX is a homage free forum

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            • #7
              sorry admin my bad... I brought PAM 111 O series from the ad he placed like around end feb or starting of mar. as for now I have plans for this bugger but if you need more evidences I can provide you with no issue privately as I do not want him to know what evidence im holding against him...neither am I here to create a false claim of the mentioned...

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              • #8
                sorry to hear that. respond to an ad placed where?
                The answer to all your questions are in the forum guidelines

                SWX is a homage free forum

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                • #9
                  AD placed in SWX.

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                  • #10
                    Thank you bumblebee83. we will take this offline. looks like someone may not be spending christmas at home after all ;)
                    The answer to all your questions are in the forum guidelines

                    SWX is a homage free forum

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                    • #11
                      it doesn't pay to cheat

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                      • #12
                        no lynching here please. we let the authorities do that
                        The answer to all your questions are in the forum guidelines

                        SWX is a homage free forum

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                        • #13
                          thanks for your assistance, really didn't want any trouble but he left me with little/no choice but to do this... from now I think "CYBER LAW" is more powerful than the current law... ZzzZzz... Hopefully he can settle with me before things go out of control...

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                          • #14
                            hi bumblebee83 i totally agree you should post photograph up so next-time every people will know who is this guys to stop cheating case go on and on ,

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                            • #15
                              pls post the nick of the seller so we all know.

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